the world ceases to make sense
Posted on Feb 16th, 2007
by
evelyn
"Those who cannot translate adequately, with a fair amount of integrity and accuracy, fall quickly into severe neurosis or even psychosis: the world ceases to make sense—the boundaries between the self and the world are not transcended but instead begin to crumble. This is not breakthrough but breakdown; not transcendence, but disaster.” - Ken Wilber (via ~C4Chaos)
The world has ceased to make sense.
Today, heck maybe it's an everyday occurence now, I'm not in a mood to be pandered to, or to pander. Maybe it's just me and maybe it's just the people that come into my sphere, but they are quite intelligent.
Almost too intelligent. They've seen the world's paradoxes. I think of Enid in Ghost World. You aren't pulling the wool over her eyes. She'd puke on The Secret.
I met my friend Wyatt on the streets of Palo Alto. Sitting there with his Washburn, he asked me for change. I was curious because he didn't quite meld with my label for street musician: "Are you from around here?"
He'd been touring in the Pacific Northwest when Katrina hit. He had lived in the Ninth Ward. He'd spent most of that time he says squarely in denial living with a fellow band member's family in Eureka, CA.
I suppose it might be called a breakdown under the giant canopy of the redwoods. One of my parting words that first day (we were destined to became good friends) were from Nietzsche only because he said he was "testing himself" via the journey back to Nola. (And yes, very Campbellian.)
me: "Well, I suppose, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger."
he: "I like Sartre better myself. Life sucks - make the best of it."
These people are too wise for The Secret. My buddy Wyatt definitely falls prey to victim thinking, as do we all. But he's also in that dark night of the soul spot which ain't about positive thinking your way out of. The Secret simply won't meet his integrity head on. The Work, or some variation, yeah, that hits closer to home.
His last email to me ended with this p.s. sentence after a brief-and-hardly-uplifting accounting of what's been happening since he arrived back Christmas Day:
it's a long way to go when you don't know where your going....I told him he was way ahead of the game. He's genuinely honest - everyone else fools themselves thinking they know precisely where they're going and why.
What most people need is not a false reframing, but a deframing. Byron Katie tweaks Wyatt's statement (and she doesn't spout philosophy as much as try to illustrate, demonstrate, the movement of the Tao): "When you have no destination in view, you can go anywhere."
These people are onto something, it's just that that something defies everything they'd ever been taught about winning in the world. Not only self, but collective belief systems crumble.
not to knowWe continuously underestimate people's resiliency and intelligence. We give them cookies and milk to feed and negotiate with monsters rather than accompany them on an investigation under the bed to check for themselves whether there actually is a ferocious monster. I loved how Darshan explained the power of a film like Pan's Labyrinth:
is ultimate knowledge
thinking you know
is delusion - tao te ching
"Pan's Labyrinth is an old story framed in a new language, and done so with the responsibility of a New Era Artist. Instead of creating a fairy tale which helps the viewer escape from the darkness of the world outside, Del Toro is like the storytelling father who says “Yes, the world is a dark and scary place, but together we can look at the world and no longer be afraid.”"After surviving the tsunami, I picked up Jon Kabat-Zinn's Full Catastrophe Living. No, I didn't think lightning strikes twice (that was probably my natural disaster for this lifetime), but I realized it's akin to facing catastrophe when you realize the unknown is in your face every instant and it doesn't care that you already leapt off a hundred-foot pole last instant.
"It is the philosophy of the Tao that we are all falling off a tree, at every moment of our lives. As a matter of fact, the moment we were born we were kicked off a precipice and we are falling, and there is nothing that can stop it. So instead of living in a state of chronic tension, and clinging to all sorts of things that are actually falling with us because the whole world is impermanent, be like a cat." - Alan Watts, What is Tao?,I entertained the thought of going to New Orleans last year at Mardi Gras. But I was exhausted from living in my thoughts (living in interpretation and expectations) for nine weeks in Thailand and Sri Lanka while visiting tsunami survivors and tsunami relief workers and I'd need to head immediately to New Orleans from Colombo to make it.
Actually I wasn't even close to being ready for post-Katrina Nola. Yet.
I mean to go this year, and it'll be Fat Tuesday this Tuesday round the bend. I may take video and launch recklessly into a video project shooting whatever grabs me.
After the hot and sour soup and pot of tea are cleared away, the other day, my fortune cookie reads: "Do the thing you fear and the death of fear is certain." I pay the bill and head next door to Cafe Adria. As I cross the threshold, the radio program announces their special programming for Fat Tuesday.
Meanwhile I observe myself get into a nihilist funk as the most cherished and most "given" of my beliefs crumble around me. The fort is coming down, yet there's nostaglia for that old fort.
We try so hard to avert disaster, and yet what you resist persists. I have noticed that we're aren't all alone in this. When and if the boundaries crumble, the teachers appear unfailingly. They might not be in clothing you immediately recognize or dialects you'd expect though.
Today I write this email to a friend, a kalyana mitta, across the country. (I've left out some identifying comments and questions). We were talking about the coincidence of this 'namaste' post with the fact that a student in his leadership class had just explained 'namaste' that day to the rest of the students:
I really adored what Bryon Katie said because she's so living it. To see not one mistake - in other, in anything is the complete namaste - is to really see that there is only one (indivisible) thing going on.
One constantly meets only the sacred, only the divine over and over and over.
There's this poet that said: "For every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you."
I'm not allowing that total namaste myself, there are times I vacillate to nihilism as a defense against sinking in deeper to this Self that can hardly clutch at any belief (even if I call these beliefs something nobler like, meaning) in an obscuration of simply being.
Nonetheless, everything has deepened anyway through grace even as the path meanders. Mostly I watch my thoughts, and question if they are true.
I will be in Nola when I get there I suppose and no sooner ;-). Somehow everything is not falling into place to go quite yet. Yet it's one of those things that is more a matter of when not if.
I hope to see Wyatt when I get there. I think he's going through a true nihilist stage. (Me, I'm merely play-acting.) I think going back hasn't been the easiest thing for him. He recently wrote: it's a long way to go when you don't know where your going....
Actually I wrote back to him and told him if he didn't know where he was going, he was ahead of the game. Most people aren't that honest, they pretend they know exactly. So I get
the sense that maybe a lot of folks may be in the dark night of the soul post-Katrina, and maybe they feel it shouldn't be that way and they'd like their "old" life back.
Hmmmm, well, we'll see where I fit in all this.
namaste, e
p.s. wrote this yesterday, rough/raw....
walking home from cafe adria
meaning tumbles into ether
i want to chase after them like dragonflies
capture them down and frame
rather i am stilled
circus tent clouds cradle flamingo sunset
playdoh-blue port-a-potty
tender white plum blossoms sprinkle into
below, china-blue dumpster
once,
small of god things,
now,
god of small things,
mine
yours
p.p.s. to Zaadzers: In Wikipedia, Nihilism is defined as "life has no truth" but I was wondering lately about "life is truth"?
image Jean Delville's Orpheus in the Underworld
Tagged with: nihilism, awakening, byron+katie, the+secret, tao+te+ching, tao, beginners+mind, suchness, dark+night

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thanks for sharing. speaking of guitars and nihilism, allow me to share my journey.
peace, love, happiness, and Divine discontent,
~C
evelyn,
your poetic writing resonates with me on so many levels. what a wonderful story and I also love the artwork.
In Wikipedia, Nihilism is defined as ”life has no truth” but I was wondering lately about “life is truth”?
bravo.
Evelyn? This is beautiful. I think I've had my own world(view) shattered enough times to realize that I don't need a system to explain the universe; I've found out the hard way (and much to my chagrin) that it continues to hang together, and to cycle through such amazing flux with a coherency far beyond what I'm capable of grasping, well enough regardless of whether or not I'm clutching an attempt at a blueprint. And I realize that even this is a belief of mine – a fairly safe-feeling one, at that.
Ah well.
Life is truth.
Life is.
Namaste.
Thanks C4, Klare, Siona.
Evocative essay C4. Thanks for sharing. I think you are right that “existentialism is a much-needed wakeup call for those of us who continue to slumber in the daily drudgeries of life.” And “that an existential stance is a gateway we must pass through at some point in our lives in order to evolve and transcend, yet fully embody our individuality.”
Especially like how it comes full circle! I know it does sound so existential, eh?
“There is neither creation nor destruction,
Neither destiny nor free-will;
Neither path nor achievement;
This is the final truth.” [10]
Hmmm, Siona, you're so right. I don't need a system, yet I hadn't noticed that I had relied on one and took for granted that you do need one. Yes, the coherency is beyond my finite brain capacity to comprehend.
I went for a run last night and the lavender was in full bloom fringed around the dirt track at the middle school. I noticed that I do not require any meaning or any purpose or any whys for stopping and meeting its fragrance.
I guess I'm being confronted with absolute no meaning, when for so long I've been a preacher for meaning and purpose. Not even the belief “I'm a human being” is gelling much. The other night I saw the movie, ”Music and Lyrics”, and the main character Alex once had a solo CD album titled, “Rhyme and No Reason.” I love that. It's all a symphony, and layering onto that experience and analyzing the causes and the whys that that note played and came before this note, urghh! (Well, when I look at it deeply everything causes everything else, so I give up!) Just enjoy inspiration! Easier when it's a sitback, but this is applying even to how and why I move and act through the world as well. Why? Because, period.
Anyhow, I also notice that it feels authentic that people that aren't just buying everyone's system lock, stock and barrel will move through a period of nihilism or some type of confusion and doubt about the meanings we've placed on the world. I'd love to have it be more out there in the public that periods of deep questioning can be an unsettling time, and that it's normal part of maturation. You're not having a breakdown, and you don't necessary need meds (as a friend confided yesterday her therapist suggested).
When it appears to bothers me that my identity is shifting and beliefs are collapsing. I recall that I always thought this was beautiful:
”We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a human experience.” - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
Thanks everyone.
Hmmm, Julian has a new juicy mysterious post on Mystery.
At the end, he says: “[W]e buy into weak and unscientific explanations for trippy-sounding things, or that we say:I don't know why or how - but that answer is not satisfying?”
“I don't know why or how” eventually is an authentic answer once everything (well, I don't know about everything, it's like a house of cards, just the right card might do it all in ;-)) has been inquired into thoroughly in your own mind (it cannot be a handed down philosophy or belief system either).
I found this no-meaning-no-answers unsatisfactory too. It can send one into nihilistic shock (see above), although I'm witnessing in myself it's only unsatisfactory to imaginary ego/self.
Maybe “I” don't know how or why - but let's call it prajna does know. And prajna informs us.
”There is a perfection beyond what the unquestioned mind can know. You can count on it to take you wherever you need to be, whenever you need to be there, and always exactly on time. When mind understands that it is just a reflection of the nameless intelligence that has created the whole apparent universe, it is filled with delight. It delights that it is everything, it delights that it is nothing, it delights that it is brilliantly kind and free of all identity, free to be its unlimited, unstoppable, unimaginable life…” - Byron Katie, A Thousand Names for Joy
p.s. Katie calls the unquestioned mind one that in where we believe our thoughts without question. She has a method of inquiry that is a flaming sword of discernment where we delve into the truth of our unquestioned assumptions and beliefs with clarity.
There's so much richness here, Evelyn, and I feel I relate so well, although I'm mindful that I don't wish to assume or pretend to have any idea what it's like be where you are, now.
I don't know. I do feel there's a palpable difference between the unexamined nihilism associated with giving up, that which accompanies a sort of solipsistic frustration with the search for meaning, and the apparent nihilism that comes with a radical acceptance of - or trust in - “a perfection beyond.” And it feels to me, too, that there's a difference between an egoic attachment to nihilism or unbelief and the relaxed observation of nihilism or unbelief as yet another (and potentially gentler) way of being.
I suppose I've been brushing, all too frequently, against an awareness of my own, very human, desire and need for explanation and purpose, and a somewhat self-conscious understanding that the more aware I become of these tendencies, the more elaborate and nuanced my theories must become. This makes me less willing to even entertain what my mind presents as meaningful or as somehow important to my identity, because I can wryly see that, no matter how appealing or how intuitively 'right' it feels, it's still just another construct for my own ego gratification. And so I'm more willing just to drop the project … again, not in frustration, but with a certain sweet appreciation of the inevitability - and ultimate fruitlessness - of that search.
Thank you, though, for writing so beautifully about this. You said, “I'd love to have it be more out there in the public that periods of deep questioning can be an unsettling time, and that it's a normal part of maturation.” Me too.
PS. I went to a talk and book signing this afternoon, and during the Q&A, one of the audience members started talking about his experience with illness and spiritual growth, and how he felt that getting sick meant that he needed to connect more with his physical body, and, too, that gaining spiritual insights would mean he'd end up getting sick while trying to incorporate these new truths. He asked about this.
Dan Millman, the speaker, had a beautifully gracious response. “I can't speak to your belief system,” he said, “and if you've found that's a healthy way for you to interpret things, that's wonderful. I take the more radical view, though, in that I don't believe that everything has some meaning. I believe that nothing means anything.”
I nearly laughed out loud with delight … and needless to say, Evelyn, I thought of you.
Siona, It's fine to presume. You seem to be grokking where I am. (I'm actually not quite now in the same space as when I wrote this, but I can certainly still relate to existentialism and nihilism, though, as the waves come in and out depending on how strong my sense of a separate self is.)
Thanks for sharing Millman's comment. Millman's radical view feels like not a view at all, but a dropping of views. Like radical in its etymological sense: getting the the “root”, “going to the origin, essential.”
That's why I wrote the other day…
”It was the end of believing…”
(and, the beginning of being)
Something about that gap between is a disorienting though ;-) Something in that gap interprets it must be like nihilism, because maybe the 'me' cannot fathom a world it cannot comprehend, a world not needing its meaning layer.
I was aware that the nihilistic, meaningless attitude was a defense (that's why I said I was play-acting), but one I was clenching to lest I have no defense. “..the more elaborate and nuanced my theories must become” Yep, I sense that defenses get more sophisticated as we get close to the ”utter fruitlessness.” I love that. It's that utter fruitlessness that seems to bring into view the ripe fruit ready to drop from the tree (and we wonder how it was ever missed).
Coincidentally, I went to see Adya that evening I posted this. Two people asked about my hot topic: meaning and purpose. (This are from some of my notes, so not precise transcription.)
Q: Once you are 'realized' as what you are, then what next? I mean, how do you know what to do next?
A: There's no ideas, no ideologies, no purpose, no meaning - just a spontaneous movement of the next most obvious thing.
Q: So It creates?
A: Yes, it's totally creative.
Q: And trust?
A: To trust It would give it a form, and implied is separation. When you know God, you don't have to trust.
“I can assure you I have no purpose at all…Purpose and meaning are personal things - they're surrogates for Reality. When I feel separate, the 'I' needs purpose and meaning… This sounds horrible to the 'me', but in its place are existence, reality, divinity, [couldn't capture entire list].”
Yet I reckon it also includes beauty, grace, ease, wonder, mystery, flow. He later says the next most obvious thing is that simple when you are still - the next obvious thing.
“Frequently It does not give you the whole plan. Who wants the whole plan? That'd be like living a re-run!”
He spoke about how as you transcend your sense of 'you', how the personal drives like the drive to be noticed, the drive to be first start to subside, and drop away. And he's seen that it is normal that there is a gap between the withering away of personal drives, and the bursting forth of the impersonal, so it's disorienting. He says it's common for friends and loved ones to ask, “What's wrong with you?” And so at this juncture, many people make a U-turn.
Also in my experience at this juncture, you don't know what's 'wrong' with you. You are so far out of the mainstream experience that's talked about or written about openly (that's my wish that this is out there more so that it's normalized). One deeply senses the world doesn't fit the beliefs they told you or you told you.
Like I wrote here, I know plenty of people that grasp a lot of truth because they question a lot of things society takes for granted or just their life experience has shown them so (most claim they are not on a spiritual path, because they aren't going to church or doing yoga or reading Wilber ;-)) that they sense that which others call meaning is all made up.
This is the gap I think the existentialists found, but…. But I don't know why they indulged that so long. It's that final utter fruitlessness that bears fruit (which sounds paradoxical). Though you can't adopt a fruitless attitude for purpose of aiming for fruit. I think nihilism can easily become another identity to possess, another theory, another posturing to defend against the utter fruitlessness. It has its hip factor, even when it's a downer.
Yet I think the “too intelligent” people I was thinking when I wrote this (besides me), aren't posturing for the melancholy hip street cred. They are in the gap, and they can't buy what others are telling them, and they can't buy what they used to believe. Rather than “losing” it, they are waking up to reality as it is, yet they don't have that felt sense of it quite yet.
Adya also quoted the Prajna Paramita Heart Sutra (hmmm, the sutra nearest and dearest to me).
“From the personal we'll looking for an emotional charge [to know what's next] - that's what meaning and purpose means - so we can miss it. Be very quiet and very still. There is a beautiful sutra line, “The tributary streams flow through the darkness.” In that stopping, tributary streams flow. There's a movement there. Don't ask it to be emotional. Don't ask it to explain itself. That which comes from Spirit is a gift. When you relax into it, you'll get the feel of it.”
Siona,
I think I've had my own world(view) shattered enough times to realize that I don't need a system to explain the universe
No we don't need any system to explain anything. It's nice to have some reminders since it seems we forget too often what the universe means and we have our bad days or work sucks or that person really annoys the heck out of me or just plain yucky moments.
Also nice to share what it all means with other lovely and beautiful human beings like yourself and evelyn. You touch upon “human connection” so poetically and with tenderness in your blogs so well.
Evelyn,
Heart Sutra is also very dear to me as well. And when we do relax, it's too apparent and makes you wonder how you could of missed it. Although it seems people have mixed reactions with “what is”. I've seen people break down but only to get back up again.
While others completely do a 180 on the spot.
Maybe it doesn't make sense, but I tend to think there can be truth to both of those views. Sure, perhaps there's no inherent purpose or meaning in life, but we still have the ability to create and see purpose and meaning in everything. Why not embrace both views?
I cannot speak for anyone else. But what's happening to me is that all views are dropping away. I am not trying or wanting to let go of meaning and purpose, they are simply letting go of me. Falling away. And truthfully, it's sublimely lovely. The nostaglia even I was feeling for them, hmmm, that too dropping away.
One of my blog buddies wrote to me the other day (I'm notoriously bad at getting to my emails, esp since I try to limit my online time), wondering if I'd gotten on the bus with Neil.
Took me a while to catch the reference, but it got me thinking about Ghost World (spoiler ahead). I think Enid was a smart cookie, she could see how the script was already written with all her other life choices (she just graduated high school) and she could see that, getting on the bus was the venture into the Unknown. I was stumped about that final scene with Seymour and his therapist. But I finally think I got it that he actually thought he could go backwards? That he was trying to go back to his “old life”. So Enid was going full steam ahead into the gap, Seymour was trying to do the U-turn.
Per Julian's reminder the other day on his blog, I picked up my copy of Dark Nights of the Soul and read:
“Today, with a therapeutic mindset, we no longer appreciate initiations and passages… Our developmental models of a human life account for progress but not major shifts in being. Linear thinking, so much a part of modern life, affects the way we understand our very lives. We evolve and develop, but we don't transform. We imagine growing like a skyscraper under construction, reaching to the sky, not like a caterpillar turning into a butterfly.” - Dark Nights of the Soul, by Thomas Moore
Wow. Anyhow, got me thinking what I can do, if anything, to help to make the cocooning known about and out in the open.